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Between2Chains
The Crypto Podcast for TradFi Professionals

Digital asset investing from a TradFi viewpoint. Industry experts candidly discuss current market trends and crypto concepts to help you better understand the ecosystem.

Former Guests:
Ben Hunt, Co-Founder of Second Foundation Partners and Creator of Epsilon Theory
Ashley Ebersole, Former SEC Regulator
Jake Brukham, CEO CoinFund

About the host: Peter Hans, Chief Strategy Officer at Arca, has over 20 years’ experience leading teams to goal-exceeding organic growth across multiple asset management and capital markets companies. At Arca, he is responsible for all aspects of strategy and management across investor relations, distribution, and strategic relationships. Peter holds an MBA in Finance from Vanderbilt University and a Bachelor of Arts degree in Psychology from Colby College.

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Tokenizing Real World Experiences

Season 2 Episode 19: Ed Vincent, CEO and Founder of FestivalPass

Peter is joined by Ed Vincent, CEO and Founder of FestivalPass, to explore a real-time example of how a business can incorporate blockchain and leverage web3 to improve their business model. They discuss Ed's vision behind FestivalPass enhancing the consumer experience for live events, the importance of community building, and how they're using NFTs.

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Focus Shift to Building & Infrastructure

Season 2 Episode 18: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back again to discuss the current state of the market. Gain a better understanding of what's driving these quieter times as Peter and Jeff discuss regional bank failures, the trickle down effects of meme coins, and the current regulatory environment. Bonus: CA and TX little league baseball and softball updates!

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The ESG & Value Narratives of Bitcoin Mining

Season 2 Episode 17: William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazminin

Peter is joined by William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazmining, for a robust discussion on bitcoin mining including its effects on the power grid and other mainstream narratives. Learn more about bitcoin as an ESG investment, how it can be used to preserve wealth, and the potential for revolutionizing current financial systems.

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The Financialization of the NFT Market

Season 2 Episode 16: Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot

Peter is joined by Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot (upshot.xyz), an NFT appraiser providing insights into NFT markets. Nick and Peter have an interesting discussion around the financialization of NFTs including nuanced problems around custodianship and blockers to further adoption of NFTs in the financial system. Learn about tokenized rewards programs utilized in a crypto native way, tracking grey markets, and the equivalent of a FICO score system for wallets in the NFT ecosystem. Learn more about NFTs from Arca specialists here: https://www.ar.ca/nft

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New Age Investing: Bitcoin vs. Banks

Season 2 Episode 15: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back with Peter on this week's Between2Chains to provide his insight into the recent market events, what it means for digital assets and the macroeconomy as a whole. Listen to their discussion to learn about tokens as downside protection, a secular shift in thinking, and assigning value to digital and traditional assets.

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Unique Use-cases for Blockchain Technology

Season 2 Episode 14: Megan Knab, Co-founder and CEO of Franklin

This week Peter is joined by Megan Knab, Co-founder and CEO of Franklin, a hybrid crypto and cash payroll software. Gain unique insights into use cases of blockchain technology and trends in the crypto industry as they discuss stablecoin regulation, outdated Tradfi infrastructures, and more.

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Crypto’s Resiliency in The Wake of Regulation

Season 2 Episode 13: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back to provide an update on markets and give his take on the current crypto rally. Learn how to invest in this uncertain environment, the effects of broad sweeping versus targeted regulatory actions, and the resiliency of digital assets. Bonus: Peter and Jeff get ready to take on another season of youth baseball and softball.

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Focus Shift to Building & Infrastructure

Season 2 Episode 18: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back again to discuss the current state of the market. Gain a better understanding of what's driving these quieter times as Peter and Jeff discuss regional bank failures, the trickle down effects of meme coins, and the current regulatory environment. Bonus: CA and TX little league baseball and softball updates!

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The ESG & Value Narratives of Bitcoin Mining

Season 2 Episode 17: William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazminin

Peter is joined by William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazmining, for a robust discussion on bitcoin mining including its effects on the power grid and other mainstream narratives. Learn more about bitcoin as an ESG investment, how it can be used to preserve wealth, and the potential for revolutionizing current financial systems.

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The Financialization of the NFT Market

Season 2 Episode 16: Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot

Peter is joined by Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot (upshot.xyz), an NFT appraiser providing insights into NFT markets. Nick and Peter have an interesting discussion around the financialization of NFTs including nuanced problems around custodianship and blockers to further adoption of NFTs in the financial system. Learn about tokenized rewards programs utilized in a crypto native way, tracking grey markets, and the equivalent of a FICO score system for wallets in the NFT ecosystem. Learn more about NFTs from Arca specialists here: https://www.ar.ca/nft

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New Age Investing: Bitcoin vs. Banks

Season 2 Episode 15: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back with Peter on this week's Between2Chains to provide his insight into the recent market events, what it means for digital assets and the macroeconomy as a whole. Listen to their discussion to learn about tokens as downside protection, a secular shift in thinking, and assigning value to digital and traditional assets.

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Crypto’s Resiliency in The Wake of Regulation

Season 2 Episode 13: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back to provide an update on markets and give his take on the current crypto rally. Learn how to invest in this uncertain environment, the effects of broad sweeping versus targeted regulatory actions, and the resiliency of digital assets. Bonus: Peter and Jeff get ready to take on another season of youth baseball and softball.

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Understanding The Metaverse To Create Utility

Season 2 Episode 12: Jeff French, BPX Collective Creator

Jeff French, BPX Collective Creator, is back again to talk all things gaming, NFTs, metaverse, and Web3. Peter and Jeff discuss the changes and advancements Blokpax and the industry have made over the past year, and how they could shape our future. Gain a better understanding of blockchain technology and the investment opportunities it can afford. 

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The Inevitable Convergence of TradFi & Crypto

Season 2 Episode 11: Featuring Michelle Noyes, Head of Americas at AIMA

Michelle Noyes, Head of Americas at AIMA and Peter agree on a major theme and that is the inevitable convergence of TradFi and the Crypto industry. Listen to their discussion and learn how legacy institutions reacted to the first crypto winter and how recent market events have impacted their interest in digital assets.

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Back to Basics: The Focus for Digital Assets in 2023

Season 2 Episode 10: Featuring Rayne Steinberg and Jeff Dorman

For the first episode of the new year Peter is joined by Arca CEO and Co-founder Rayne Steinberg, and CIO and Co-founder Jeff Dorman to discuss their outlook for digital assets in 2023. Listen to find out how their knowledge and research coupled with anecdotal conversations they've held with Tradfi professionals and crypto natives have shaped their predictions for market opportunities this year.

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The Misconception of Crypto as an Asset Class

Season 2 Episode 9: Featuring Byron Gilliam

Peter is joined by Byron Gilliam, Markets Strategist and Newsletter Writer at Blockworks, to discuss where we are in the market cycle, core issues and misperceptions in the digital asset industry, and why they are more bullish on crypto as a technology than an investable asset class.

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Blockchain Beyond Financial Services

Season 2 Episode 8: Featuring Alexandre Dreyfus

Alexandre Dreyfus, Founder and CEO of Chiliz and Socios.com, joins Peter to discuss real world use cases for blockchain that go beyond trading or financial services. Learn how Chiliz is using this revolutionary technology to better align the sports fan to the organization through transparency and fairness.

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So Now What? The Future of Blockchain

Season 2 Episode 7: Featuring James Healy

Arca's CIO and Co-Founder Jeff Dorman joins Peter to have a timely conversation about the state of the digital asset industry amid recent events. Learn about the opportunities that could unfold from the current market and the revolutionary power of blockchain technology.

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How Higher Ed Institutions are Adopting Blockchain

Season 2 Episode 6: Featuring James Healy

Peter is joined by James Healy, Professor at USC Marshall School of Business, President at Digital Disbursements, and Economic Advisory Council Member for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, to discuss USC's adoption of blockchain and digital assets in their curriculum. As we see a trend of higher ed institutions offering blockchain and digital asset courses Peter and James touch on the revolutionary solutions this technology can offer and the corresponding interest levels of the younger generation to get involved.

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Assigning Values to Layer 1s Post ETH Merge

Season 2 Episode 5: Featuring Nick Hotz

Peter sits down with Nick Hotz, Vice President of Research at Arca, to discuss how investors should value Layer 1 tokens and blockchains. Listen to their discussion to understand why traditional valuation methods aren't comparable for these assets including how Layer 1s relate more to currencies than equities.

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Shifting Focus From the Fed to the Merge

Season 2 Episode 4: Featuring Jeff Dorman

Learn from Arca's CIO and Co-Founder, Jeff Dorman, about the current macro environment including how we haven't seen similar trends in over 45 years. Additionally, Jeff and Peter discuss the market's reaction to the Ethereum merge and what we can expect in the years to come for blockchain technology and the broader digital asset market.

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Is The Crypto Bottom In?

Season 2 Episode 2: Featuring Jeff Dorman

Peter is joined by Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-Founder of Arca, to discuss the fundamentals driving the market. Learn the market trends indicating we've bottomed, how and when digital assets decoupled from macro, and the 4 key elements investors should look for when investing in digital assets.

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The Anti-Consensus Bull Case

Season 2 Episode 1: Featuring Raoul Pal

In this episode, Peter is joined by Raoul Pal, CEO, and Co-Founder of The Real Vision Group, for the re-launch of Between2Chains. Learn about the economic measures creating a case for Raoul’s bullish view on the market including interest rates, inflation, peak fear correlations, recency bias, and general misunderstandings of the crypto market.

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B2C0043: Global Financial Unrest is Long Term Bullish for Crypto

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week’s episode Peter is joined by Arca CIO, Jeff Dorman to discuss the volatile state of traditional financial markets and its impact on the digital asset ecosystem. They discuss the gradual shift to a decentralized exchange and how it could offer protection from geopolitical events we’ve seen unfold over the past couple weeks.

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B2C0042: Where Could the Bull Case be Wrong?

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman (ARCA co-founder and CIO) joins our host Peter Hans on this week's episode of Between2Chains to discuss market trends, the tightening cycle, US monetary policy, the influence of narrative changes in digital assets, the availability of information in digital assets, and much more.

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B2C0041: The Future of Digital Asset Securities

Featuring Jerald David and Rayne Steinberg

In this week's episode of Between2Chains Rayne Steinberg and Jerald David of Arca join host Peter Hans to discuss digital asset securities and the emergence of the Blockchain Transferred Fund (BTF). They discuss the invention of the mutual fund, the innovation of digital asset securities and how both lend to the newest pooled investment vehicle innovation.

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B2C0040: The Macro Narrative and Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week's episode of Between2Chains Jeff Dorman joins our host Peter Hans, talking about impact of macro on the digital asset class, Fed’s hiking Cycle, inflation, interest rates and much more.

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B2C0039: 2022 Outlook for Industry Transformations

Featuring Rayne Steinberg

In this week's episode of Between2Chains Rayne Steinberg joins our Host Peter Hans, talking about transformations in the digital asset industry in 2022. They discuss tradfi adoption of digitization, DAOs influence in the coming year, and more.

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B2C0038: Closing Out Another Year of Digitization

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman once again joins Peter on this week's Between2Chains to reflect on the Digital Asset Industry over the past year. They also discuss what could happen in the Digital Asset Industry in the final week of 2022.

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B2C0037: Market Opportunities in 2022

Featuring Jeff Dorman and Katie Talati of Arca

In this week's episode of Between2Chains Jeff Dorman and Katie Talati join our Host Peter Hans, talking about market opportunities in the digital asset industry for 2022. They discuss how long this bull run can last, the lack of current regulation and more.

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B2C0033: Inflation and Mt. Gox Distributions are Bullish for Risk Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week's episode of Between 2 Chains, Jeff Dorman joins the show with our host Peter Hans,and takes us through inflation, the macro-economic environment and what's is going on with Mount Gox.

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B2C0032: Digital Assets 4th Q Predictions

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week's episode of between 2 chains, Jeff Dorman joins the show with Peter Hans taking us through the predictions on the 4th quarter, uniqueness of bitcoin, fractionalization of real assets, Gaming space getting into NFT, and much more.

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B2C0031: Wrapping Up a Crazy September in Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week's episode of between 2 chains, Peter Hans is joined by Jeff Dorman to talk about the trends going on in the market, the big selloffs and big rallies seen in the month of September, and compare them with the volatility seen throughout the year in different sectors.

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B2C0030: Transparency Rules All in Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week's episode of between 2 chains, Peter walks us through the inherent transparency of our digital asset system, and Jeff joins to discuss both the transparency and current asset group trends.

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B2C0029: Digital Assets: Where are we in the Cycle?

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this episode of Between2Chains Peter Hans is joined by Jeff Doorman to talk about where we are in digital assets cycle. They draw parallels to the early 1990s and speculate that digital assets may not be an asset class at all, but rather a technology that will pervade everything, and that calling it an asset class will be equivalent to calling investing in securities an asset class in the future.

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B2C0028: A look into Data Providers in Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

A look into Data Providers in Digital Assets.

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B2C0027: Digital Assets Rebound, Where are we Now?

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Digital Assets Rebound, Where are we Now?

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B2C0025: Exploring Digital Assets and the ESG Debate

Featuring Rayne Steinberg

Rayne Steinberg, CEO at Arca, joins host Peter Hans in this episode to talk about Arca’s perspective on ESG investing. Steinberg touches on some of the environmental implications and recent narratives at play, but focuses the discussion more around the societal and governmental facets of ESG and the challenges and opportunities they present. It’s an interesting conversation that may get you thinking differently about the asset class.

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B2C0024: The Top 10 Bear Market Narratives Debunked

Featuring Jeff Dorman

The Top 10 Bear Market Narratives Debunked. 

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B2C0023: Where Do We Go From Here

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman returns to Between2Chains to talk about the crazy market over the past few weeks and the current downcycle in digital assets. During the conversation, he touches on correlations, political and regulatory fears in the market, different types of buyers and the flow of their funds, the forces that shaped the bull market and whether they’re still in play, differentiation among assets, the challenge of exchanges, and more. If you’re wondering where we go from here, you’ll want to listen to his insights.

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B2C0022: Structural Volatility in Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Arca CIO Jeff Dorman joins host Peter Hans to talk about the roller coaster ride that has been the past week in crypto. Dorman shares his take on the multiple crashes and quasi-rebounds that have taken place in the digital assets market and dissects some of the events and narratives that took prices down, including Elon Musk, China, and other factors.

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B2C0021: Blockchain and the evolution of payments and banking

Featuring Michael Del Grosso

Senior Research Analyst at Compass Point, Michael Del Grosso, joins this episode to talk about the evolving digital assets ecosystem how it affects the sectors and companies he covers, including fintech, payments, Coinbase, and Silvergate. Del Grosso shares his thoughts about the evolution of some of these industries as well as how he views Defi and the digital assets landscape going forward.

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B2C0020: Exploring Seed Stage Venture Investing in Digital Assets

Featuring David Nage

David Nage, Principal at Arca, joins host Peter Hans this episode to explore seed-stage investing across the digital asset landscape. Everything we’ve discussed on Between2Chains thus far has been about liquid public token markets, but David has a history of investing in venture and early-stage companies in digital assets, both professionally and personally. They look at trends, sectors, and company lifecycles, how it all differs from traditional investing, and more.

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B2C0019: Yield is King

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-Founder of Arca joins host Peter Hans for a conversation that gets back to their fixed income roots: they’re talking about low-volatility yield. Everyone gets into the crypto and digital assets market because of the upside and the technology, but this episode explores the many ways you can generate safety on a relative basis and earn high single- to low double-digit yields.

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B2C0018: The Future is Bright

Featuring Jake Brukhman

Jake Brukhman, CEO of CoinFund, joins host Peter Hans in this episode to share his perspective as one of the first digital asset managers in the world. Brukhman is incredibly knowledgeable and is great at balancing the potential of blockchain technology with its financial and investable implications. From Bitcoin to defi to venture investing and more, there’s a lot to learn from this conversation with institutional investors in the digital assets space.

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B2C0017: Digital Assets 101 Refresher

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman, CIO of Arca, joins Peter Hans for a special episode of Between2Chains, which was livecast as part of Finance Podcast Week, presented by Podbean. Dorman and Hans treat the audience to a digital assets primer as a starting point for those interested in getting into the world of crypto. The pair discuss everything from the different types of digital assets to whether Bitcoin will ever become a usable form of currency. It’s an educational conversation every would-be digital assets investor should hear.

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B2C0016: How NFTs Will Change the World

Featuring Neda Whitney and Sasha Fleyshman

In this episode of Between2Chains, Peter Hans is joined by Neda Whitney and Sasha Fleyshman to talk about NFTs and how it will change the world.

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B2C0015: Real Vision’s Special Episode

Featuring Ash Bennington

Peter Hans, Managing Director at Arca and host of Real Vision’s Between Two Chains podcast, joins Ash Bennington for a special episode. Peter and Ash interview each other, share their individual journeys into the space, talk about the different aspects of being a market participant in this asset class, and much more. If you’ve ever wanted to know more about the personalities behind the podcasts on Real Vision, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

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B2C0014: Grayscale, BlockFi and Risk in the System

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Arca CIO Jeff Dorman joins Peter Hans this episode to look at the current events happening in the market. Dorman shares his thoughts about how Grayscale went from a large premium to trading at a discount and what that may mean for the system, especially for leverage in the system. He and Hans also touch upon the recent BlockFi funding spree and how it differs from some of the other capital raises, from Robinhood all the way back to the Knight Capitals of the world during the financial crisis. It’s a thought-provoking conversation that’s sure to challenge your own perspective.

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B2C0013: NFTs are Blowing Up: The Future of Video Games and Digital Art

Featuring Sasha Fleyshman

In this episode, Sasha Fleyshman, Trader at Arca, joins host Peter Hans to talk about the latest buzz in the crypto and collectibles space: NFTs. Fleyshman explains the concept behind them, how they work, and why they’re unique, and dives into some of the risks and fascinating opportunities of real-world applications like gaming and digital art.

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B2C0012: Digital Assets through an Institutional Lens

Featuring Matt Edwards

Matt Edwards, CEO and CIO of Dalpha Capital joins host Peter Hans for a deep-dive discussion about managing volatility in the digital assets space, what migration to the space can look like at scale, Dalpha’s differentiating approach to trading the asset class, and the opportunities he sees for digital assets going forward.

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B2C0011: The Game is Rigged

Featuring Ben Hunt

In this episode, Ben Hunt, Co-Founder of Second Foundation Partners and creator of Epsilon Theory, joins host Peter Hans to talk about how investors can make sense of markets that don’t make much sense. Using the lens of game theory, Hunt explores the role of narrative and the market machine, and offers investors a new way of thinking about Wall Street that can revolutionize their investment perspective.

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B2C0010: Priorities for the Biden Administration

Featuring Andy Jones

Andy Jones, attorney and strategist for Federal Street Strategies in Washington D.C., joins Peter Hans to share his perspective on the Biden agenda and how they’re tackling everything from COVID to the economy to regulating transformational technologies like blockchain and Bitcoin.

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B2C0009: The SEC and Regulating Digital Assets

Featuring Ashley Ebersole

In this episode, host Peter Hans is joined by Ashley Ebersole, partner in Securities, Digital Assets, and FinTech at Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner LLP and Former SEC Enforcement Senior Counsel. Their discussion centers around aligning innovation and regulation in the digital assets space, with Ebersole sharing his inner knowledge of the SEC as it relates to how the commission views the asset class, the difficulty decentralization poses for regulation, how the digital asset space may be affected by the leadership of Gary Gensler, FinHub, safe harbor, custodial rules, regulatory forbearance, and much more. It’s a deep dive discussion that explores many of the challenges and opportunities of imposing regulation in the digital asset space.

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B2C0008: Unlocking Balance Sheet Value in Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

This week, host Peter Hans is joined by Arca CIO Jeff Dorman to explore activist investing. A trend that’s been successful for a long time in the traditional hedge fund management industry, activist investing is just starting to make its way into the digital asset space. Hans and Dorman talk about the significant opportunities to unlock value through balance sheet valuation, helping management teams better think about their token holders and their stakeholders, better structures of companies, and more. The conversation opens up a lot of philosophical discussion, as activist investing in the digital asset space is a green field with no legal precedent. After the podcast, join us on social media to continue the conversation.

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B2C0007: Intro to Stablecoins

Featuring Ryan Watkins

On this episode, host Peter Hans is joined by Ryan Watkins, research analyst at Messari, to talk about stable coins: why they exist, how they work, different types, use cases, and risk scenarios. They also discuss the recent questions surrounding the backing of Tether, and Watkins explains why not all entities issuing stable coins are equal and how investors can think about the relationship between Tether and other digital assets. To wrap up the discussion, Watkins shares his thoughts about where the future of this important part of the ecosystem is headed.

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B2C0006: Wealth Transfer and DeFi: How Millennials and Gen Z View What is Investable

Featuring Ryan Watkins

Host Peter Hans sits down with Ryan Watkins, Senior Research Analyst at Messari, to explore the influence of differing generational perspectives in the digital assets space. Watkins shares his background and worldview as someone on the cusp of Millennial and Gen Z, his take on top-down and bottom-up frameworks for analyzing the space, the idea of Bitcoin as “Gen Z gold,” what’s going on structurally in DeFi, and more.

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B2C0005: Exploring What’s Ahead for Digital Assets in 2021

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this episode, host Peter Hans is joined by Arca CIO Jeff Dorman to explore some of the investment themes they think will be big in 2021, including NFTs, continued conversation of DeFi, sports, eSports, fan experience, and web 3.0. They also take a look at some of the narratives that are dominating the investment industry in digital assets after an incredible 2020.

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B2C0004: An Intro to DeFi-Decentralized Finance

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this episode, Peter Hans is joined by Arca CIO Jeff Dorman to explore decentralized finance: what it is, why it exists, and why Hans believes it is a huge investable opportunity over the next decade. Hans dives into topics like counterparty risk, consumer finance and how defi can neutralize biases in the system before Dorman joins to discuss his view of defi, some of the pros and cons of decentralization from a customer service standpoint, and where he sees the space heading in the future.

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B2C0003: Hope, Hype, and the Digital Assets Landscape

On this episode, host Peter Hans take a look at where the digital assets investment landscape stands today and how it compares to investing in the Internet as a technology in the 80s, 90s, and throughout the 2000s. He covers the parallels in types of companies that can be invested in, what they provide, what growth they’ve allowed for into the future, and how both have followed a hope, hype, despair, and rebound lifecycle.

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B2C0002: Blockchain Investment Opportunities to Know Now

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this episode, Peter Hans discusses the origins and expansion of blockchain as a technology, including its many investable applications that were highlighted in the original Ethereum white paper first published in 2013. Hans is then joined by Arca Funds CIO Jeff Dorman to dive deeper into what those investable applications look like today.

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B2C0001: Preparing for an All-Digital World

In the launch episode, host Peter Hans sets the stage for investors who want to learn more about the digital asset ecosystem and hear true fundamental analysis to prepare for this rapidly changing world. Topics include cryptocurrencies, crypto platforms and protocols, asset-backed tokens, utility tokens, and more, all through the lens of an institutional investor.

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Focus Shift to Building & Infrastructure

Season 2 Episode 18: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back again to discuss the current state of the market. Gain a better understanding of what's driving these quieter times as Peter and Jeff discuss regional bank failures, the trickle down effects of meme coins, and the current regulatory environment. Bonus: CA and TX little league baseball and softball updates!

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The ESG & Value Narratives of Bitcoin Mining

Season 2 Episode 17: William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazminin

Peter is joined by William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazmining, for a robust discussion on bitcoin mining including its effects on the power grid and other mainstream narratives. Learn more about bitcoin as an ESG investment, how it can be used to preserve wealth, and the potential for revolutionizing current financial systems.

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The Financialization of the NFT Market

Season 2 Episode 16: Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot

Peter is joined by Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot (upshot.xyz), an NFT appraiser providing insights into NFT markets. Nick and Peter have an interesting discussion around the financialization of NFTs including nuanced problems around custodianship and blockers to further adoption of NFTs in the financial system. Learn about tokenized rewards programs utilized in a crypto native way, tracking grey markets, and the equivalent of a FICO score system for wallets in the NFT ecosystem. Learn more about NFTs from Arca specialists here: https://www.ar.ca/nft

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New Age Investing: Bitcoin vs. Banks

Season 2 Episode 15: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back with Peter on this week's Between2Chains to provide his insight into the recent market events, what it means for digital assets and the macroeconomy as a whole. Listen to their discussion to learn about tokens as downside protection, a secular shift in thinking, and assigning value to digital and traditional assets.

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Unique Use-cases for Blockchain Technology

Season 2 Episode 14: Megan Knab, Co-founder and CEO of Franklin

This week Peter is joined by Megan Knab, Co-founder and CEO of Franklin, a hybrid crypto and cash payroll software. Gain unique insights into use cases of blockchain technology and trends in the crypto industry as they discuss stablecoin regulation, outdated Tradfi infrastructures, and more.

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Crypto’s Resiliency in The Wake of Regulation

Season 2 Episode 13: Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca

Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-founder of Arca, is back to provide an update on markets and give his take on the current crypto rally. Learn how to invest in this uncertain environment, the effects of broad sweeping versus targeted regulatory actions, and the resiliency of digital assets. Bonus: Peter and Jeff get ready to take on another season of youth baseball and softball.

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Understanding The Metaverse To Create Utility

Season 2 Episode 12: Jeff French, BPX Collective Creator

Jeff French, BPX Collective Creator, is back again to talk all things gaming, NFTs, metaverse, and Web3. Peter and Jeff discuss the changes and advancements Blokpax and the industry have made over the past year, and how they could shape our future. Gain a better understanding of blockchain technology and the investment opportunities it can afford. 

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Back to Basics: The Focus for Digital Assets in 2023

Season 2 Episode 10: Featuring Rayne Steinberg and Jeff Dorman

For the first episode of the new year Peter is joined by Arca CEO and Co-founder Rayne Steinberg, and CIO and Co-founder Jeff Dorman to discuss their outlook for digital assets in 2023. Listen to find out how their knowledge and research coupled with anecdotal conversations they've held with Tradfi professionals and crypto natives have shaped their predictions for market opportunities this year.

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So Now What? The Future of Blockchain

Season 2 Episode 7: Featuring Jeff Dorman

Arca's CIO and Co-Founder Jeff Dorman joins Peter to have a timely conversation about the state of the digital asset industry amid recent events. Learn about the opportunities that could unfold from the current market and the revolutionary power of blockchain technology.

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How Higher Ed Institutions are Adopting Blockchain

Season 2 Episode 6: Featuring James Healy

Peter is joined by James Healy, Professor at USC Marshall School of Business, President at Digital Disbursements, and Economic Advisory Council Member for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, to discuss USC's adoption of blockchain and digital assets in their curriculum. As we see a trend of higher ed institutions offering blockchain and digital asset courses Peter and James touch on the revolutionary solutions this technology can offer and the corresponding interest levels of the younger generation to get involved.

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Web 3.0 and the NFT Business Model

Season 2 Episode 3: Featuring Jeremy Parris

Peter is joined by Jeremy Parris of delphi digital, an industry expert on web 3.0, gaming, nfts, and the metaverse. Listen to their discussion as they cover the most frequently asked questions and buzzwords on these top-of-mind industry segments. Learn why adoption is lagging, how financial models are built into games, and common misconceptions.

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B2C0043: Global Financial Unrest is Long Term Bullish for Crypto

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week’s episode Peter is joined by Arca CIO, Jeff Dorman to discuss the volatile state of traditional financial markets and its impact on the digital asset ecosystem. They discuss the gradual shift to a decentralized exchange and how it could offer protection from geopolitical events we’ve seen unfold over the past couple weeks.

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B2C0042: Where Could the Bull Case be Wrong?

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman (ARCA co-founder and CIO) joins our host Peter Hans on this week's episode of Between2Chains to discuss market trends, the tightening cycle, US monetary policy, the influence of narrative changes in digital assets, the availability of information in digital assets, and much more.

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B2C0030: Transparency Rules All in Digital Assets

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this week's episode of between 2 chains, Peter walks us through the inherent transparency of our digital asset system, and Jeff joins to discuss both the transparency and current asset group trends.

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B2C0021: Blockchain and the evolution of payments and banking

Featuring Michael Del Grosso

Senior Research Analyst at Compass Point, Michael Del Grosso, joins this episode to talk about the evolving digital assets ecosystem how it affects the sectors and companies he covers, including fintech, payments, Coinbase, and Silvergate. Del Grosso shares his thoughts about the evolution of some of these industries as well as how he views Defi and the digital assets landscape going forward.

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B2C0018: The Future is Bright

Featuring Jake Brukhman

Jake Brukhman, CEO of CoinFund, joins host Peter Hans in this episode to share his perspective as one of the first digital asset managers in the world. Brukhman is incredibly knowledgeable and is great at balancing the potential of blockchain technology with its financial and investable implications. From Bitcoin to defi to venture investing and more, there’s a lot to learn from this conversation with institutional investors in the digital assets space.

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B2C0017: Digital Assets 101 Refresher

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Jeff Dorman, CIO of Arca, joins Peter Hans for a special episode of Between2Chains, which was livecast as part of Finance Podcast Week, presented by Podbean. Dorman and Hans treat the audience to a digital assets primer as a starting point for those interested in getting into the world of crypto. The pair discuss everything from the different types of digital assets to whether Bitcoin will ever become a usable form of currency. It’s an educational conversation every would-be digital assets investor should hear.

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B2C0006: Wealth Transfer and DeFi: How Millennials and Gen Z View What is Investable

Featuring Ryan Watkins

Host Peter Hans sits down with Ryan Watkins, Senior Research Analyst at Messari, to explore the influence of differing generational perspectives in the digital assets space. Watkins shares his background and worldview as someone on the cusp of Millennial and Gen Z, his take on top-down and bottom-up frameworks for analyzing the space, the idea of Bitcoin as “Gen Z gold,” what’s going on structurally in DeFi, and more.

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B2C0005: Exploring What’s Ahead for Digital Assets in 2021

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this episode, host Peter Hans is joined by Arca CIO Jeff Dorman to explore some of the investment themes they think will be big in 2021, including NFTs, continued conversation of DeFi, sports, eSports, fan experience, and web 3.0. They also take a look at some of the narratives that are dominating the investment industry in digital assets after an incredible 2020.

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B2C0004: An Intro to DeFi-Decentralized Finance

Featuring Jeff Dorman

In this episode, Peter Hans is joined by Arca CIO Jeff Dorman to explore decentralized finance: what it is, why it exists, and why Hans believes it is a huge investable opportunity over the next decade. Hans dives into topics like counterparty risk, consumer finance and how defi can neutralize biases in the system before Dorman joins to discuss his view of defi, some of the pros and cons of decentralization from a customer service standpoint, and where he sees the space heading in the future.

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Tokenizing Real World Experiences

Season 2 Episode 19: Ed Vincent, CEO and Founder of FestivalPass

Peter is joined by Ed Vincent, CEO and Founder of FestivalPass, to explore a real-time example of how a business can incorporate blockchain and leverage web3 to improve their business model. They discuss Ed's vision behind FestivalPass enhancing the consumer experience for live events, the importance of community building, and how they're using NFTs.

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The ESG & Value Narratives of Bitcoin Mining

Season 2 Episode 17: William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazminin

Peter is joined by William Szamosszegi, Founder and CEO of Sazmining, for a robust discussion on bitcoin mining including its effects on the power grid and other mainstream narratives. Learn more about bitcoin as an ESG investment, how it can be used to preserve wealth, and the potential for revolutionizing current financial systems.

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Unique Use-cases for Blockchain Technology

Unique Use-cases for Blockchain Technology

Season 2 Episode 14: Megan Knab, Co-founder and CEO of Franklin

This week Peter is joined by Megan Knab, Co-founder and CEO of Franklin, a hybrid crypto and cash payroll software. Gain unique insights into use cases of blockchain technology and trends in the crypto industry as they discuss stablecoin regulation, outdated Tradfi infrastructures, and more.

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How Higher Ed Institutions are Adopting Blockchain

Season 2 Episode 6: Featuring James Healy

Peter is joined by James Healy, Professor at USC Marshall School of Business, President at Digital Disbursements, and Economic Advisory Council Member for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, to discuss USC's adoption of blockchain and digital assets in their curriculum. As we see a trend of higher ed institutions offering blockchain and digital asset courses Peter and James touch on the revolutionary solutions this technology can offer and the corresponding interest levels of the younger generation to get involved.

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Is The Crypto Bottom In?

Season 2 Episode 2: Featuring Jeff Dorman

Peter is joined by Jeff Dorman, CIO and Co-Founder of Arca, to discuss the fundamentals driving the market. Learn the market trends indicating we've bottomed, how and when digital assets decoupled from macro, and the 4 key elements investors should look for when investing in digital assets.

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B2C0035: NFTs and Collectibles with BlokPax CEO Jeff French

Featuring Jeff French

In this week’s episode of Between 2 Chains Peter Hans is joined with BlokPax CEO Jeff French talking about his start ups and about BlokPax. Jeff French’s latest venture adds a new twist to the crypto landscape. French and his team are working to tokenize ownership of physical collectibles as NFT’s and expose this traditional asset class to a rapidly growing global audience of potential buyers using cryptocurrency.

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B2C0020: Exploring Seed Stage Venture Investing in Digital Assets

Featuring David Nage

David Nage, Principal at Arca, joins host Peter Hans this episode to explore seed-stage investing across the digital asset landscape. Everything we’ve discussed on Between2Chains thus far has been about liquid public token markets, but David has a history of investing in venture and early-stage companies in digital assets, both professionally and personally. They look at trends, sectors, and company lifecycles, how it all differs from traditional investing, and more.

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B2C0018: The Future is Bright

Featuring Jake Brukhman

Jake Brukhman, CEO of CoinFund, joins host Peter Hans in this episode to share his perspective as one of the first digital asset managers in the world. Brukhman is incredibly knowledgeable and is great at balancing the potential of blockchain technology with its financial and investable implications. From Bitcoin to defi to venture investing and more, there’s a lot to learn from this conversation with institutional investors in the digital assets space.

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B2C0014: Grayscale, BlockFi and Risk in the System

Featuring Jeff Dorman

Arca CIO Jeff Dorman joins Peter Hans this episode to look at the current events happening in the market. Dorman shares his thoughts about how Grayscale went from a large premium to trading at a discount and what that may mean for the system, especially for leverage in the system. He and Hans also touch upon the recent BlockFi funding spree and how it differs from some of the other capital raises, from Robinhood all the way back to the Knight Capitals of the world during the financial crisis. It’s a thought-provoking conversation that’s sure to challenge your own perspective.

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B2C0006: Wealth Transfer and DeFi: How Millennials and Gen Z View What is Investable

Featuring Ryan Watkins

Host Peter Hans sits down with Ryan Watkins, Senior Research Analyst at Messari, to explore the influence of differing generational perspectives in the digital assets space. Watkins shares his background and worldview as someone on the cusp of Millennial and Gen Z, his take on top-down and bottom-up frameworks for analyzing the space, the idea of Bitcoin as “Gen Z gold,” what’s going on structurally in DeFi, and more.

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B2C0003: Hope, Hype, and the Digital Assets Landscape

On this episode, host Peter Hans take a look at where the digital assets investment landscape stands today and how it compares to investing in the Internet as a technology in the 80s, 90s, and throughout the 2000s. He covers the parallels in types of companies that can be invested in, what they provide, what growth they’ve allowed for into the future, and how both have followed a hope, hype, despair, and rebound lifecycle.

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Tokenizing Real World Experiences

Season 2 Episode 19: Ed Vincent, CEO and Founder of FestivalPass

Peter is joined by Ed Vincent, CEO and Founder of FestivalPass, to explore a real-time example of how a business can incorporate blockchain and leverage web3 to improve their business model. They discuss Ed's vision behind FestivalPass enhancing the consumer experience for live events, the importance of community building, and how they're using NFTs.

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The Financialization of the NFT Market

Season 2 Episode 16: Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot

Peter is joined by Nick Emmons, Co-founder and CEO of Upshot (upshot.xyz), an NFT appraiser providing insights into NFT markets. Nick and Peter have an interesting discussion around the financialization of NFTs including nuanced problems around custodianship and blockers to further adoption of NFTs in the financial system. Learn about tokenized rewards programs utilized in a crypto native way, tracking grey markets, and the equivalent of a FICO score system for wallets in the NFT ecosystem. Learn more about NFTs from Arca specialists here: https://www.ar.ca/nft

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Understanding The Metaverse To Create Utility

Season 2 Episode 12: Jeff French, BPX Collective Creator

Jeff French, BPX Collective Creator, is back again to talk all things gaming, NFTs, metaverse, and Web3. Peter and Jeff discuss the changes and advancements Blokpax and the industry have made over the past year, and how they could shape our future. Gain a better understanding of blockchain technology and the investment opportunities it can afford. 

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Web 3.0 and the NFT Business Model

Season 2 Episode 3: Featuring Jeremy Parris

Peter is joined by Jeremy Parris of delphi digital, an industry expert on web 3.0, gaming, nfts, and the metaverse. Listen to their discussion as they cover the most frequently asked questions and buzzwords on these top-of-mind industry segments. Learn why adoption is lagging, how financial models are built into games, and common misconceptions.

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